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A new accusation has been made against Gov Cuomo for sexual harassment. Will he survive it?
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The End of King Cuomo
So here’s the thing a little, a little I guess pretext or, or whatever you want to call it. I personally have, I guess you’d say defended governor Cuomo in the past, and I probably will continue in, in different areas. And what I mean by that is what you will see in New York. And in other parts of the country is.
Governor Cuomo being attacked and everything being overblown for literally everything. Right. And I that’s probably par for the course for every governor in every state, but he’s got haters that literally everything he does, even things that are good for the state, they find some way to bitch about, okay, it’s normal.
Sometimes those are legitimate bitches. Right. Sometimes he legitimately did something wrong. It’s legitimately something to gripe about, and that happens quite a bit. He’s a kneel liberal. He carries the water for these establishment Democrats, but at the same time, he’s one of the few that also understands how to at the very least pander to Progressive’s and he’s gotten some progressive things done in the state of New York.
It’s undeniable, gay marriage. He was a big part of years ago.
Supposedly he wants to legalize marijuana. I mean, he he’s always personally been opposed to it, but he seems to have taken the now logical approach that even though this isn’t really my thing, I see the benefit in it. And he, he claims, although it hasn’t happened yet, he claims that he’s he supporting in, in legalizing that.
You know, there’s a lot of other things, bail reform. There’s, there’s, there’s a lot of things good that the man has done. And given those facts, you know, I have a hard time just straight up bashing, and this is the problem. This is the problem not turning your fucking phone off. This is the problem that a lot of people have is everything is very binary.
Everything is very team sport. You’re either the best guy in the world who can do no wrong or you’re total trash. Right. That’s, that’s the way a lot of people see. I don’t see things that way. And I’m sorry. And you know, in, in one aspect, I think it’s because I have a lot of empathy for people and me traditional bleeding heart.
You know, and the other thing is, is I’m just a realist because I see a lot of these attacks that are, are just not based in fact, right. Whether I think the guy’s a Dick or whatever, everything is drastically overblown. And so recently we had this, this nursing home, or I guess currently, right.
I don’t think that nursing home thing. Is nearly the thing that a lot of people make it out to be. And that’s just facts. This is not pining for him. The reality is hiding. The numbers was absolutely 100% wrong. There’s, there’s no debating that they know that they’ve admitted that,
but that situation wasn’t going to take him down. You know, and you’ve got people, every Republican in the state, no matter what their office calls for his resignation or calls for him, his powers to be removed. Yeah. That’s, that’s just par for the course. Like that’s not, that has no weight. They call for him to resign every day over everything.
And when you look at it, when you look at that particular, that nursing home situation, you see people Cuomo killed grandma.
I don’t agree with that. Just straight up. Don’t the facts don’t pan out. The reality is people were sent discharged rather from the hospital and they were sent home. Their home happened to be a nursing home and the inevitable happened. I don’t know what else you could do at any time. People, you know, get into this conversation.
They talk about Cuomo killed grandma because he sent all those people back to the nursing homes. He didn’t send anybody anywhere, people were discharged. But my question for these folks is always, what should he have done then? What would be the better alternative? They usually completely lock up at that point, they have zero answer.
And then once in a while, you’ll get some like nonsense answers, send them to another place, send them to a hotel, a great, you have to staff those people. People are in a nursing home because it’s full-time care. They have nurses and aides all the while you can’t just send them to a motel six for a couple of months by themselves.
So, you know, again, the idea that there was any choice or decision, maybe there was, and I’m not ruling that out. I’m not saying that there wasn’t a better option, but when folks argue, they can’t seem to point out a better option. I’m not sure what a better option would have been. I mean, it’s, it’s a plain and simple thing when you’re discharged from the hospital, you go home.
This was their home, right? Yeah. RD says you know, you could have left them in the hospitals that were near over capacity and yeah, I’ve heard those, those types of arguments too. I’ve heard people talk about the the Navy ship that we had in New York city that we barely used. And I see people blamed Coleman for that had nothing to do with Cuomo.
The state had no control whatsoever over who came on and off that ship. That was a Navy thing. In the Navy originally didn’t even want people to had COVID they sent this hospital for COVID and said, we don’t want no COVID patients in this thing is literally what happened. But the thing about that as well, as, you know, keep in mind, many nursing homes in my area are former hospitals.
There is. In many cases, almost nothing different from a floor on nursing home, to a floor in a hospital, you get just as many people coming and going. You’ve got just as many people in rooms get just as much illness floating around. So even if you could do that, even if you could continue to take up beds in a hospital for people that would otherwise be discharged, even if that was a reasonable thing to do, I don’t see how it would make any difference.
Unfortunately, the only thing that would have helped these people, the only thing that would’ve kept grandma alive is if grand son took her back home, unfortunately these people are in, in group congregate places where every type of virus, the flu every year goes through them like wildfire. That is unfortunately the reality.
Of dealing with an elder compromised community and that’s what we have here. So if you wanted to do anything better, you needed to open it. You know, it goes to the, the the immigration attack. Well, you’re going to open up your home. Literally. The only thing that we could have done better that I believe.
Is send people from the hospital to an individual house, not back to a nursing home, but again, even that, you know, you can give people shit for maybe not taking care of their family, but that’s not even always the case. People may be not even qualified to take care of their family. That’s why they’re in nursing homes with professional medical nurses attending 24 seven.
You know what I mean?
But my point of this, this whole situation is that thing that fire for governor Cuomo, I don’t think it’s anything. I don’t think it was going anywhere. I think he’s going to get a lot of shit for it. I think a lot of his opponents would in will always bang the drum of how horrible it was and he killed grandma, even though that’s not.
Again, in my assessment, what happened? I wouldn’t change much. And, and there’s some data some polling that’s come out that kind of reflects that view. A lot of people think that he did something wrong or by it by hiding the data, but they don’t think he did anything criminal. His approval rating has taken a couple of hits, but one of the most ironic headlines that I saw was.
Cuomo’s approval rating drops to pre pandemic levels. Well, before the pandemic, he won the last election with over 60% of the votes. So it’s not really like he’s hurting,
but then, then we got this other thing, the thing that’s on the screen.
He’s now been accused of sexual harassment. And I don’t know that anybody questions, the credibility of this, this except maybe him,
but this is very credible. This is very damning. And let me, let me pull up the actual story here and give you some of the details.
Blow it up a little bit. Ex Cuomo, Wade publisher’s account of sexual harassment.
Lindsey Boylan. She’s a former candidate for Congress, former. Cuomo staffer. One of the top people, she accused him of a sexual harassment in December. And you might’ve heard there was, there was some talk of this, but they did a good job of kind of tamping it down on Wednesday though. She published a detailed account of the harassment.
Here’s what she said.
We were flying home from an October, 2017 event in Western New York on his taxpayer funded jet.
From there, boiling fires off anecdotes about having her whereabouts tracked physical comparisons to Cuomo’s ex-girlfriend offers to play strip poker. She said he showed off a box of cigars given to him by president bill Clinton. Touched her lower back arms legs kissed her on the lips after a meeting.
This is, this is bad.
I, I do want to just point out though that I find it a little humorous that we can throw in the sentence. She said he showed off a box of cigars given to him by president Clinton. That’s the entire sentence. And yet we all know that’s a sexual thing. That’s how fuck this is.
She goes on to detail a lot of these things. She said she sharing her story in the hopes that it may make it easier for others to speak their own truth. I think this is a key key thing, and it speaks to my overall thesis here.
King Andy it’s fucked because what typically happens in these situations is where there’s smoke. There’s fire. And it’s almost never just one person there’s there’s, you know, obviously exceptions to what I’m saying, but. Almost every time you find someone like this in a position of power who treats one woman this way, he’s probably treated many, many others.
And if this breaks the dam and they do come out as Ms. Boylan is saying that, that she hopes happens, he’s fucked. He’s done. And deservedly, so don’t get me wrong. I’m not trying to say that. Anything other than that this is, this is bad and you know, the, the thing about it, and this is an interesting passage.
This is from her her writings on the topic. Governor Cuomo has created a culture within his administration where sexual harassment and bullying is so pervasive. That is not only condoned, but expected his inappropriate behavior towards women was an affirmation that he liked you, that you must be doing something right.
He used intimidation to silence his critics. And if you dare speak up, you would face the consequences. Now. That statement right there is going to be one of the least shocking statements ever, right. Because he’s, well-known for being an intimidating guy and you know, throwing around the rough language and, and you, you hear that from, we just heard that earlier this week from a Democrat.
If the stream picked up a hiccup right there. I don’t know. I don’t know what’s going on, but it’ll all be in the podcast. It looks like Twitch is being weird. We know he uses intimidation, you know? So the credibility of claims like this. Not, not really all that in question.
Yes. Governor Cuomo sexually harassed me for years. Many saw it and watched this was the original tweet in December that she put out. I could never anticipate what to expect. Would I be grilled on my work, which was very good or harassed about my looks or would it be both in the same conversation? This was the way for years.
Again, if there’s one there’s others and when the others come homeboy the next question in the next conversation, and that might be for another episode is who do we get? If Cuomo disappears, obviously there’s a Lieutenant governor. There’s a, you know, a process, but we might look into that because that might be a real possibility.
There’s a good chance in my opinion, that this situation is going to come to a head. And governor Cuomo is, is not, this is not what he’s going to weather. I could be mistaken. There are people that have weathered worse. But, you know, th there’s also some precedent in the state of New York. We had governor Spitzer got caught with a prostitute
towards the end of his term. I had to go.
So I, I don’t know. I don’t know what’s going to happen. What I hope. Is that whoever replaces him is not a step backwards. And again, this is the thing that, that I say before. And unfortunately like I’ve been on friended by people for not hating this man enough. I’ve been unfriended for speaking, honestly, when he did something right.
And I said, Hey, that was the right way to go. And the response was you asshole. He’s a piece of shit. How dare you? Talk about a particular action that he took that. Yes, even I like I don’t subscribe to that bullshit. I’m going to call it as we see it. And I’m more interested in the policy, in the actions than the guy I could take or leave the guy,
In, in, you know, I say this because I can clearly see that I’ve come off as somebody who has defended him many times.
But it’s not because I’m some Cuomo superfan it’s because I’m discussing the reality of the issue. Just like I am today in the reality of the issue is this is fucking shitty deplorable behavior. And it’s probably going to end his career. In my opinion, in my, in my estimation, as of today, tomorrow could be totally different.
But looks like we’ve got a convo going on here in the chat. What’s going on. Jack says I don’t think accusation, although credible is going to affect him much. It should, but I don’t think it will look at the accusations Trump had against him and he still got elected. And, and already responded to that.
Look at the history of these accusations against the writer, resoundingly refused by the right. So there was only support from the left accusations against the left are treated seriously by the law. Yeah. So, Both of you have valid points. And, and I think this is an important thing to say, and RD is absolutely right.
You really can’t compare Trump to, well, you can’t compare Trump to anything. Trump is an enigma. Trump is a guy who literally has gotten away with insurrection motherfucker, got people to attack our Capitol and run the fucking. Confederate flag. Something that never happened during the civil war around our Capitol building 54% of the Republican party still supports him over anybody else.
Trump, Trump is not an example to compare to anything. First of all. Okay. We can look at a lot of Republican governors in, obviously that. For many reasons would be I think, a better comparison. But in those cases you have a lot of guys that did things similar or worse and said, fuck you, I ain’t going anywhere.
And they stayed. You’ve also seen people on the right who’ve gotten caught in these things and left. The, the Democrats are generally much more aggressive about this. I mean, you know, Al Franken got run out of town for doing far less than this, and I’m not going to debate that particular matter. But the reality is that was led by his own team.
I don’t think the Republicans even had the same, much our own New York Senator Gillibrand led the charge to get rid of Senator Franken. I’ll be interested to see if she has the same reaction. For governor Cuomo for what? In, in, in my opinion, all shitty behavior. But in my opinion, that the Cuomo thing would be quite a bit worse.
There is a scale to things. There is a, everything is bad, but then there’s still degrees of bad.
So. I don’t know. And like I said Jack says Biden’s accusations were not taken seriously by the left. That’s a reasonable argument to make. Although though, there’s, there are some more D there are a lot of people that took those very seriously. Unfortunately, Joe Biden’s accuser. There’s some issues there.
And, and, and again, I’m not going to get into that or attack that or, or make any claims one way or another, but that also goes back to what I’m saying. That was one person. In what I’m saying with Cuomo here is if this one person turns into an avalanche of people that is, what’s going to fuck him, you might be right.
This one story. If it stays at this one story and this, this one woman, unfortunately, Even though he, he might deserve to go down even for just one person that might not take him, but, but I think there’s a good possibility that the dam will break and that’s it. So I, I think there’s some interesting things afoot and again, I could be wrong.
He could very well weather the storm and even get reelected. That’s a valid possibility. That I will not discount, but again, if Lindsay is not the only person
there’s there’s trouble in King Cuomo’s court,
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